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@robopulp's avatar

Can you please give a definition of chaos magick and how it can help you reconcile with your dark side?

I don't understand it, but in a whim I asked Chat GPT if there was a correlation between chaos magick and the classic hardboiled detective, which is my personal icon.

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In the part about shooting a sigil shoal, do you give focus to each component of the shoal and then leave it to give your focus to the next component?

J.D. Forrest's avatar

Three good questions. Let me take them in order.

Chaos magic and the dark side: The whole architecture is built for exactly this. Most spiritual systems ask you to transcend or suppress the shadow material. Chaos magic says use it. Anger, obsession, lust, grief β€” these are fuel sources, not character defects. The practice teaches you to charge a sigil from a state of gnosis, and gnosis can be ecstatic or exhausted or furious. The darkness isn't the problem. Wasted darkness is the problem.

The hardboiled detective connection is dead accurate. The detective operates outside institutional morality with a personal code that supersedes the law. He uses whatever works. He walks into the shadow material of society β€” murder, corruption, human ugliness β€” and doesn't flinch. He has no illusions about reality but acts anyway. That's chaos magic embodied in noir fiction. The detective doesn't believe the system. He believes his method. Same thing.

The shoal question: Yes, but with a specific intention. You give each component its own moment of focus β€” clear, distinct, no bleedover β€” then banish it before moving to the next. Treat each sigil like a separate operation that happens to share a mission. The risk with shoals is letting them bleed together into one vague intention, which dilutes everything. Compartmentalize the focus. Fire each one clean. Then forget the whole thing.

The forgetting is non-negotiable. That's where most people break it.

@robopulp's avatar

Thank you for the this reply. It's such an insight to see the attraction to this character goes beyond the superficial trappings of adventure and danger. Even before I knew of the Continental Op and Dashiell Hammett, this character has always called to me above all other genre types.

The forgetting part reminds me of the teachings of Neville Goddard, where he says the same thing, to send a specific want to the universe and then forget it. But personal growth gooroos don't address that part. How to forget the sigil once you fire it. How did you develop the ability to forget it once to fired it?

J.D. Forrest's avatar

To answer your question, I don't really know. I just make them then forget them. It makes me wonder if I did one to help me forget them at some point because they honestly just leave my mind after I'm done.

@robopulp's avatar

You have reached Zen status. Forgetting is probably the biggest challenge beyond the creating of the sigil for a specific desire.

@robopulp's avatar

Such a multi leveled post. You hit on do many things here.

It's freezing where I am too, and spring can't get here fast enough.

A series of sigils is something I hadn't thought of, but it makes sense. It's the solution to constantly changing your mind about what you want.

The shadow side is pervasive, and mist don't know it's there, and go out of our way to ignore it. It's what's compelled me to write that we gave the answers to what troubles us, but they're in a place we're afraid to look.

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